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Eric Marshall's avatar

A most excellent article. I have a variety of battlefield, and specialty rifles, yet still have my trusty model 94. It shoots totally flat, and never falters. I call it the politically correct assault rifle. It doesn't have a bunch of do-dads sticking out of it to hang up in the brush, has a powerful enough load for even a black bear, and you can continuously “top off” the magazine without any breakdown. They can call it dead all they want, but America’s deer rifle hasn't gone anywhere.

Grumpy Libertarian's avatar

always wanted one but ammo cost was to high. Now the cost of a decent lever action is insanely high.

My compromise was 7.62×39, both semi auto and bolt action. When I stocked up I paid .20 cents a round. Even now it is 55 to 60 cents a round compared to 90c to well over a dollar a round for 30-30. Ballistically they are very close.

30-30 has the advantage in kinetic energy in that it typically starts at 150 grains and goes to 180 or 200 grains for the bullets with it reaching 2000 ftlbs at muzzel with right bullet while the 7.62×38 is around 1500 ftlbs. 7.62 is 123 grains to 150 grains. both are 30 caliber rounds and will stop a deer or boar in it’s tracks.

I run 123 grain soft points in general and 150 grain softpoints for hunting. Honestly though 123 grain does well for hunting also.

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